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Parents, Kids and Demons; Truth about Discipline  

 

Renette Vermeulen

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SUBJECTS: 

· This is what God says about unruliness

· The general description of ‘discipline’

· The apostle John told us exactly what God’s Love really Is  

· Love is the motive of Godly discipline

· What discipline is not  

· Indiscipline is mind and character murder 

· God disciplines the dangers we impart to our children through our bad behavior 

· Psychology versus Scriptural teaching and Godly discipline 

· Parents must be  God’s authoritative figures in the home to lay the foundation of civilization 

· Godly punishment follow unrelenting disobedience 

· God holds parents responsible for the sin of undisciplined children 

· Kids are not just “naughty;” they sin through indiscipline

· Can little children be possessed by demons

· Escaping the consequences of indiscipline

· The “me, “myself,” and “I” gospel: a huge consequence of indiscipline 

 

INTRODUCTION

A HURRICANE OF INDISCIPLINE IS TEARING THE WORLD APART because barbarianism and anarchy always follow the discard of God’s Scriptural Moral-Law commandments.  Yet, how many people know what the motive of Godly discipline is, where it begins, and how to apply it? 

 

THIS IS WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT UNRULINESS, WHICH IS ALWAYS CAUSED BY A LACK OF DISCIPLINE 

“Teach [My True Word] diligently to our children (and grandchildren) when you sit in your house, walk by the way, lie down, and rise up...” This is training them constantly in a lifestyle of righteousness, (Deut. 6:6-9; 4:9! 1 & 2 Tim. 4:7-8.)

Proverbs 18:2, “The fool has no delight in understanding but in [acting out] his own [evil desires.]”  > 10:17; 6:23, “Whoever heeds instruction, [training his mind to live in Godliness, 1 Tim. 4:7-8,] is on the path to life, but he who rejects reproof [or discipline] leads others astray…  [Ungodliness such as false dogma is a demonic infection that spreads like wildfire.] God’s commandment is a lamp and His teaching the Light, as the reproofs of discipline are the way [to heaven.]” 

Proverbs 17:1315:31-33; 12:2, “He who rewards evil with ‘good;’ evil will not depart from his house, [as he welcomes it and consents to it.]  > But he who listens to the rebukes of [Godly discipline] will abide among the wise. He who hates instruction, [training,] despises his own soul, [while] he who heeds rebuke [discipline] gets understanding [of God and life in general.]  

 Proverbs 6:22, The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom [because] understanding is the wellspring of life, but the correction of [Scripture-rejecting] fools is folly… > Whoever loves instruction, loves knowledge.  But he who hates correction, [discipline,] is stupid… [as he lacks knowledge.] 

  Ecclesiastes 7:5, “Better the rebuke [warning] of the wise than the song of fools.” 

 

THE GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF ‘DISCIPLINE

►  Psychology says: ‘Discipline is self-control that helps solve problems. Punishment is causing suffering for having problems.’

God’s contextual Word says: Discipline is “training in Godliness;” but everything remains a wilful choice, (2 Tim. 4:7-8; Jn. 1:12-13.) Due to our inborn stubborn nature, discipline is a vital part of our intellectual development that directly impacts all our decisions.  No one can learn and persevere without training to understand what is right and discipline to help him finish the task, (2 Tim. 4:7-8!)  Through training that guides, in combination with discipline that encourages endurance in righteousness, people overcome barbaric behavior to manifest civil behavior. Furthermore, Godly punishment does not pertain even slightly to ‘having a problem.’ Punishment is a redeeming action that follows the intentional rejection of character-shaping discipline. Sadly, since the fall in the garden, God’s discipline and punishment, which steer us in His Word and Way, was twisted into loveless authoritarian control and torture.  Therefore, those who apply discipline and punishment ABUSIVELY cuts away God’s motive of love that governs it. This perverts His commandments into cruel oppression.  Indiscipline or the neglect of Godly discipline uses other methods, but does the same.

The key to everything is to teach children that God IS Love, Truth, and Righteousness. “He made male and female one [through marriage] to raise godly offspring on the earth,” (1 Jn. 4:16; Jn. 14:6; Mal. 2:13-15.)

So, installing Godly self-discipline and responsibility in the minds of children will defy immorality and disobedience to the Lord, (Rom. 12:1-2.)  Action IS character. Thus, “training in Godliness” must start early in the lives of children, (2 Tim. 4:7-8.) As they grow, it must be expanded through appropriate teaching and by demonstrating the satisfaction and benefits of behaving conscientiously.  This will manifest in how children treat parents, family, friends, animals, and navigate life in general, (Mt. 7:16-18!) 

Until they are ready to lead their own lives independently, nurturing them with the necessary attention, (not over attention or over care,) and spiritual, mental, and physical disciplines, will also train them in self-mastery, healthy self-confidence, and responsibility, to acquire life skills according to their abilities. 

This calls for setting fair but clear limits on behavior, and drawing logic lines in making choices between right and wrong.  So, they will willingly abstain from recklessness to choose what is right; even if it might be undesirable or seems painful.  In the long run, this will typify a civil lifestyle and benefit them in everything pertaining to their lives, (Heb. 12:11.) 

Proverbs 29:17 encourages parents, “[Train and] discipline your children and they will give you rest. Yes, your soul will delight in them.” 

 

THE APOSTLE JOHN TOLD US EXACTLY WHAT GOD’S LOVE AND HATRED ARE 

The Lord Jesus Christ does not simply speak the Truth; He IS the Truth, (Jn. 14:6.)  Similarly, God does not merely love.  “God IS Love. [So,] HE WHO LOVES, DWELLS IN GOD, and GOD IN HIM,” (1 John 4:16.) 

Yet, the genuine Love of God is NOT a mere feeling.  Godly love is AGAPE in Greek; the highest form of workable action.  1 John 3:18-19 explain, “Let us not love in word or tongue; but [AGAPE] IN DEED AND TRUTH.  [If we are hearers only we deceive ourselves.  We must be DOERS of His Word to glorify God: James 1:22.]  By this we know we are of the Truth, [Jesus Himself,] and will assure our hearts before him…”  Agape is our highest commitment and priority, which must constantly be recognized in OBEDIENCE to God’s Word!  

 Our Father’s supreme commandment is to “love Him with ALL our hearts, souls (minds,) and strength.  So, the Lord Jesus said in John 14:15, “If you love [agape] Me keep My commandments.” (Deut. 6:1-9; Mt. 22:36-40!)  Obedience to this, His ONLY New Testament Covenant Law, is to show our agape-love for Him by keeping the precepts of His Moral Law, (Heb. 10:16; Jn. 13:34-35!)  E.g., ‘Do not worship idols, steal, lie, fornicate… Agape other people AS you agape yourself…’ (Jn. 13:34-35!)  1 John 2:3-11; 3:4-23 state, “By this we know that we know God; if we keep His commandments.  He who says ‘I know Him’ [but disobeys Him] is a LIAR, and THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. BUT GOD’S LOVE IS PERFECTED IN HIM WHO KEEPS HIS WORD. This is how we know we are in Him… But he who [disobeys God] HATES [Him,] and is a MURDERER…” 

 It is certain that forgiveness and eternal life can ONLY realize through the Lord Jesus Christ, (Jn. 14:6; 3:16-18!)  God gave Himself as a sacrifice to atone for all sin, but only those who choose to sincerely believe and persistently follow Him can receive it, (Jn. 1:12-13; 3:16-18; 8:31-32!)  This makes God’s agape-love in Christ as CONDITIONAL as can be. 

►► Hence, “UNCONDITIONAL LOVE” DOES NOT EXIST, (Mt. 7:21-24!)  That is merely a satanic license to destroy all types of discipline to live in lawlessness, (Jam. 4:4; Heb. 13:4!)  Unrepented sin separates us from God, (Isa. 59:1-5! Gal. 5:19-20!)  So, Godly love is a ‘two-way street’ where NO Godly civilities and relationships can exist without boundaries, which govern behavioral restrictions, (1 Jn. 2:1-11!) 

 

LOVE IS THE MOTIVE OF GODLY DISCIPLINE

Hebrews 12:6-7, “God disciplines those He loves… [And God agapes the whole world: John 3:16-18.]  Thus, endure hardship as [Divine] discipline; God is treating you as His children.” 

Knowing what agape implies, clarifies the meaning of Proverbs 13:24. “Whoever does NOT discipline his son HATES him. [He is a murderer who enables his son to destroy himself: 1 Jn. 3:15.]  But he who [agapes] his son diligently CORRECTS [or disciplines] him.”  So, Divine discipline shapes Godly character through Holy-Spirit conviction of sin, to guide us into the knowledge of “all truth,” (Jn. 16:8-11.) This is how the Lord develops obedient agape behavior and equips us with Godly life skills. 

 Just as forgiveness and grace in Christ, agape discipline remains inseparable from REPENTANCE FROM SIN.  God declared in Revelation 3:19,  “Those I love, I rebuke [discipline,] and chasten, [punish.]  So, be zealous and repent!”   

 We manifest our agape for God and people through our behavior, which is our ‘fruit that must fit repentance:’ (Mt. 3:8-12; 7:16-20.)  Children need the teaching and discipline of God, ethical parents, and other Godly teachers to support godliness in Christ.  Yet, none can rely on other people to live for God.  Ultimately, everyone must make their own choices as soon as it is possible, because we shall all fall or stand only for ourselves before God’s throne, (Ezk. 18:19-24!)  1 John 3:7-9; 14-19 warn, “Let no one deceive you. He who [decidedly] practices righteousness is righteous…  HE WHO [chooses to] SIN IS OF THE DEVIL… WE KNOW WE HAVE PASSED FROM DEATH TO LIFE [because we are spiritually born again in Christ and practice Holy-Spirit led agape as a lifestyle..]”

 

WHAT DISCIPLINE IS NOT

Agape/love discipline is the opposite of all the many forms of INDISCIPLINE that support the irresponsibility, incompetence, unintelligence, laziness, and gross immorality of the world. E.g., the true nature of verbal destruction and violent attacks, (disguised as discipline,) is abusive indiscipline.  It models and thus teaches children and other people damaging behavior instead of curbing it.  

 Proverbs 25:28; 28:18-19, “He who has no control over his own spirit is as a broken down city without walls. [Undisciplined thoughts and sinful behavior open us to immorality and demonic infestation: Mt. 5:28-30!] …He who conceals his sins [through indiscipline that causes irresponsibility,] does not prosper. But he who [shows accountability,] confesses and repents from sin to find mercy.”  

Both uncontrolled fury and violence that masquerade as ‘disciple,’ as well as the no-care enabling of destructive behavior are demonic, dehumanizing powers.  Both extremes are lawlessness – which is the only law of Satanism: “Do what you want is the whole of the law!” (Jn. 8:44!)  As we can see all around us, lawlessness is the obliteration of decency, trustworthiness, and civilisation. 

 

INDISCIPLINE IS MIND AND CHARACTER MURDER

Indiscipline results in uneducated, hyper active, INATTENTIVE, self-absorbed, bored, underdeveloped, lazy, incompetent children and adults with uncivil behavior.  Even worse, left undisciplined, those character traits develop into so-called ‘mental illnesses,’ which cause ‘personality disorders’ such as ADHD, (attention deficit/hyper activity,) narcissism, and psychopathy.  This starts in childhood and is always accompanied by various forms of sinful control, aggression, violence, sadism, and addictions to things like pornography, alcohol, and drugs, (Proverbs 24:30-34! 2 Tim. 3:1-9!)  E.g., even small children manipulate indisciplining parents through things like refusal to eat healthy food to gorge on sweets.  Or they simply refuse to obey their parents to see with how much barbarianism they can get away. 

How can such disrespect, defiance, lawlessness, and brilliant control tricks, (clearly narcissistic tendencies,) be ‘uncontrollable brain dysfunction’ or ‘mental illness?’  Unless the problem is truly ‘ineffective brain function,’ what psychologists call “personality disorders,” were NOT caused by “mental illness,” “defective inherited DNA,” or so-called “bloodline curses!” (Find the truth by reading Exodus 20:1-6.)  Destructive behaviors are BASED ON A LACK of parental teaching, Godly discipline, and character development — and it is constantly escalated by a combination of Satanic instigation and the deliberate copying of abusive behaviors, (see Zechariah 1:4 KJV!)  

Psychologists DISAGREE, but it is proven that so-called ‘brain disorders’ such as ADHD can be controlled if the child is in a disciplinary environment and knows he will not be allowed to misbehave. But once he is back in his malfunctioning home, the ‘brain dysfunction’ kicks in again! 

No illness can be controlled like that!  When such self-destroying behavior is established, it impacts the development of children spiritually, mentally, physically, and socially, which will also cause immense problems in adulthood. Allowing children to do what they want instead of equipping them through teaching and discipline with healthy worldviews; ethical behavior, and self-sustaining competency, eventually devastate even future spouses and families.

  

PSYCHOLOGICAL PRACTICES VERSUS SCRIPTURAL NURTURING AND DISCIPLINE 

The ‘permissive parenting’ philosophy of psychology is “high responsive and low demanding.”  Allegedly, kids should allegedly not experience restrictions and thus, can commit lawlessness as they choose. This leaves no room for parents to earn the respect of children.  It teaches kids to thrive on disrespect and disobedience to get their way with everything, while parents jump to satisfy their demands. In violation of God’s Moral Law, no matter how uncivilized kids behave, they are still not disciplined.

This results in children walking all over parents and everyone else in disrespect and hatred for what is good.  It teaches them irresponsibility by acquitting them of accountability and places them mentally in control of parents and other instructors, which breed psychopathic narcissism from a very young age, (see 2 Tim. 3:1-9!) 

 

PARENTS MUST BE GOD’S AUTHORITATIVE FIGURES IN THE HOME TO LAY THE FOUNDATION OF CIVILIZATION  

Raising children according to God’s Moral Law commandments will always be beneficial on a multilevel and throughout life.

Hebrews 12:10-11; 2 Tim. 3:12, “...God disciplines us for our own good, [e.g., by allowing persecution for righteousness to test and shape us,] that we may share in His holiness.” Because He loves us enough to teach and discipline us for our own sake, God commanded, “WATCH OUT FOR YOURSELF LEST YOU FORGET THE THINGS I HAVE TAUGHT YOU [to obey Me as your highest priority.] They are your wisdom and understanding [to live your life for ME...] TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN DILIGENTLY [so they can pay attention and choose to do the same things...] Do NOT let this Word depart from your [mind] all the days of your life [but make it your lifestyle,]” (Deut. 4:5-9; 11:19.) 

Think how the Lord Jesus used parables and the observance of lilies, sparrows, etcetera, to explain His teachings. He was the perfect example of how parents must constantly support the multilevel training of children without smothering their abilities with over-care or fear power.    

 Contrary to what parents expect, schools can only build general knowledge on existing respect and civil manners.  Teaching children God’s Truth and  appropriate behavior is the responsibility of parents.  Yet, God’s authority does NOT mean to literally “squat before children to become small to reach them on their level” and to be their chums not their parents. Children must be taught to look up to God as their main priority, and to respect and obey caring parents; His genuine authoritative figures, (see Eph. 6:1-4!)  So, if children do not respect parents because of their senseless violence and other abuse, they cannot respect and obey school teachers.  Unintelligence and uselessness will result. 

 

GODLY PUNISHMENT FOLLOWS UNRELENTING DISOBEDIENCE 

Punishment is not malicious torture.  Its motivation must be solely to curb destruction. Proverbs 29:1: “HE WHO IS OFTEN REBUKED AND HARDENS HIS NECK WILL SUDDENLY BE DESTROYED, AND THAT WITHOUT REMEDY.”

Godly punishment is crucial in character, intelligence, civil behavior, and self-sustaining progress. “[So, tell your children to] NOT despise the [teaching] of God, [and never replace it with blame-shifting and other irresponsible psychological practices,”] (Heb. 12:4-11.)  Nor be discouraged when you are warned by God, [the first step of discipline.]  For whom the Lord agapes, He disciplines and PUNISHES [if unrepentance persists.] If you [understand and] endure His Divine discipline, you will know that He treats you as His own child.  What child is there whom a [loving] parent does NOT discipline?  BUT IF YOU ARE WITHOUT DISCIPLINE… YOU ARE ILLEGITIMATE; NOT TRUE CHILDREN [of God and Godly parents...]  No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful.  [Sadly, we simply do not learn from our mistakes while we may do as we please without reaping the consequences.]  Nevertheless, afterwards it yields the fruit of peace and righteousness to those who were trained by it,” (1 Cor. 13:8; Jn. 1:12-13!) 

Yet, God does NOT change people without their submission and obedience to Him!  (1 Pt. 1:13-19!)  Proverbs 5:22-23 notifies us, “His own iniquities entrap the wicked person and he is [imprisoned] by the cords of his own sin.  He will DIE for [unrepentedly discarding] instruction, [discipline, and punishment.]  In the greatness of his folly he will go astray.”  Still, punishment must always be done with restraint and fairness to fit the offence!  E.g., governments should not hang thieves but jail them to stop harmful behavior, (Jn. 10:10.)

Proverbs 29:15-18 KJV, “The [Godly punishing] rod of reproof gives wisdom.  But a child left to himself shames his parents.  When sin increases [through indiscipline,] he will fall… So punish your son and he will give you rest…”  

Proverbs 22:15 agrees, “When folly is bound up in the heart of a child, the rod of discipline, [not soul-destroying violence,] will drive it out.” This means that constant, sufficient teaching, discipline without delay, and punishment should bring him to his senses and break demonic strongholds and control.  

Proverbs 23:13, “Do not withhold discipline from a [rebellious, disobedient, self-entitled] child; if you strike him with a rod [in Godly punishment after discipline,] he will not die; [but he will most likely die spiritually and emotionally, even physically if you practice indiscipline.]”  

 

GOD HOLDS PARENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIN OF UNDISCIPLINED CHILDREN. 

Old Testament Eli is an example of half-hearted discipline that neglects parental responsibility, (1 Cor. 10:11-13.) Eli did rebuke his adult, fornicating sons.  Yet, his dysfunctional discipline “honored them more than God,” as he did not discipline them sternly in His attempt to restrain them.  Both his sons and Eli died as a result, (1 Sam. 2:12, 22-24,29; 3:13; 4:17-18.) 

 An unmanageable young child will become an unruly adult – unless Godly teaching and discipline are applied in time to shape that increasingly wild character into a Godly character with the COOPERATION of the child.  Inattention to raise children according to God’s standards harms them on a multilevel. 

Proverbs 13:24, “…THE PARENT WHO LOVES HIS CHILD DISCIPLINES HIM PROMPTLY;” as sin escalates quickly.  Proverbs 20:11, “Even a child makes himself known by his acts, whether his conduct is pure and upright [or not.]”  So, God calls even young children to accountability - as soon as they can discern right from wrong.  But before that, parents are responsible for the undisciplined behavior of their children. 

 Therefore, God commanded in Proverbs 19:18, “Discipline your children, for then there is hope; but do not set your heart on putting them to death [as indiscipline is loveless character and intellectual murder,]” (1 Jn. 3:14-15.) 

 

 

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